Interview with Addiction Studies Coordinator, Daniel Yalisove

JJ:  How did you get started in substance abuse research and treatment at John Jay?

DY:  I worked in the substance abuse field for 18 years before coming to John Jay College.   As a clinician I was surprised and dismayed by the disconnect between the substance abuse field and psychology and mental health.  I was pleased to come to John Jay College to begin to address this disconnect.  

JJ:  What is the addictions study program at John Jay and who is it intended for?

DY: There are three components to the program.  There is an Addiction Studies Minor.  This is like any other academic minor at the college.  Students select six courses from the list of addiction studies courses.  This will then be on the student's transcript and demonstrate a concentration in addiction studies.  It should be useful for students who intend to do graduate work in any area of human services including the criminal justice field.  The second component is CASAC education.  The completion of these 8 courses fulfills the 350 hour education requirement for the Credential in Alcoholism and Substance Abuse Counseling of New York State.  Upon completion, I will issue the student a certificate which can be mailed to the Office of Alcoholism and Substance Abuse Services (OASAS).  OASAS will then issue the student a Trainee Certificate.  Treatment programs have an incentive to hire those with this certificate and thus is helpful in getting employment in the addictions field.  But please note the actual CASAC requires a training requirement, a work requirement, and the passing of an oral and written exam.  The third component is the Training requirement for the CASAC.  The student takes psy378-9.  He must do his internship at an OASAS-approved facility under proper supervision.  He also must add internship hours to total 300.  Full time students, undergraduate students, graduate students, part-time students, and non-degree students are all eligible for the CASAC education and training program.

JJ:  What will it prepare the student for (job, research, etc.)?

DY:  The CASAC component prepares students for entry level substance abuse counseling positions.  The CASAC and Addiction Studies Minor will provide good preparation for graduate study in human services.

JJ:  Can you explain the difference between CASAC minor and completing the certificate training program?  More specifically, what are the advantages and disadvantages to both (if applicable)?

DY:  First, if you complete the CASAC education program, you have completed the requirements for the Minor.  So you might as well get it as well.   I believe I have outlined the differences above.  The Addiction Studies Minor is more flexible than the CASAC training.  Students can choose from a variety of courses.  The CASAC program permits students to be eligible for substance abuse counseling positions upon completing the 8 courses.

JJ:  How would you describe the typical drug addict or alcoholic, or isn’t there one? 

DY: Research has long shown that there is no alcoholic personality and that there is no typical substance abuser.   While the stigma and stereotyping of alcoholics and substance abusers has decreased, it is still common.  This isn't surprising.   The small percentage of difficult abusers get all of our attention.   The majority who respond well to treatment and get on with their lives quickly become invisible.  One of the  many  positive features of  AA  is that  AA  members  can  become  advocates  for  alcoholics.   And  in general  there is a movement  for  those in recovery from all  addictions and now in mental health  to become advocates  for the  treatment of these illnesses.

JJ:  Would you say that culture, ethnicity, and socio-economic status influence the type of substance abuse? 

DY:  Yes, each of these factors contributes to risk factors associated with substance abuse.  Cultures  often  have  customs which  promote  or discourage intoxication,  socialize  moderate use,  regulate  availability which will  act  to either  increase  or decrease  hazardous  use  which  leads to  higher  rates of addiction.   Genetic differences among ethnic groups may act as safeguards or risk factors.   For example,  about  half  of  Asians  have  protection  against alcoholism  because  of the genetically controlled  Asian  Flush reaction.   Communities with low rates of employment are at greater risk for higher levels of substance abuse.

JJ:   Do you recommend a particular treatment model for substance abusers?  More specifically, how would you determine the best treatment model for an individual patient?

DY:  This is an excellent question.   In the substance abuse field,  there has been  a  great  controversy  about  the appropriate  treatment  for  many  years.   The short  answer to the  question is  that  outcome research  does  not  indicate  any  treatment  is superior,  but  that  all treatments  are  better  no treatment.   The fact  is that  there  are  many  options  for treatment  today  and  those  with  the disorder  should  choose  the  treatment  that  they  think will work  for them.   For  alcoholism,  there  is  traditional 12-step treatment,  based  on AA  principles,  cognitive  behavioral  therapy,  motivational  interviewing,  and  harm  reduction  approaches.  For opiate addiction there is Therapeutic Community, methadone maintenence, and buprenorphine.   I believe  students  should be familiar with all of these approaches  and  I  make  a  special  effort  to ensure  all approaches  are  presented  completely  and  objectively.

JJ:  Have you ever known anyone personally who struggled with a drug or alcohol addiction?

DY:  Yes.  After  I  got  my first  counseling   job  at  an  alcoholism  clinic,  I realized  a close  relative  was  suffering from alcoholism.

JJ:  Who would you recommend apply for CASAC certification?

DY:   Counseling  is  a  profession that requires  patience,  optimism,  empathy,  and  acceptance  of  emotions.  I have found it both challenging and rewarding.   For  the  CASAC,  you  must  be  emotionally  free  enough  to have  empathy  for  substance abusers.   Not everyone does.

 

 

Daniel Yalisove has been at John Jay College since 1987.  He has published numerous articles and two books on the addictions:

 

Yalisove, D.L. (2004).  Introduction to alcohol research:  Implications for Practice, Prevention and Policy.  Boston:  Allyn & Bacon.

 

Yalisove, D.L.  (1997). (Ed.)  The Essential Papers on Addiction.  NY:  New York University Press.